Ever Forever
I believe that everyone prays to God at least once in their lives. Even if they do not believe that he exists, the one day that they pray will inevitably arrive. All human beings will pray for something. They will wish to pursue it. They will want to reach out and take hold of it. It is something imagined from our affinities and our emotions. Of that much I am certain.
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While many have been able to discern from the guesses that have been posted, we at MangaGamer would like to formally announce our new partnership with minori. We will also be collaborating with the fan translation group No Name Losers, to bring to you the many games minori has to offer! Our first releases under this collaboration will be ef – the First Tale and ef – the Latter Tale, the basis for the two anime ef – A Tale of Memories (2007) and ef – A Tale of Melodies (2008). While these will be the first titles that come from this new partnership, we hope you will look forward to even more in the future!
To those unfamiliar with the name, minori is a Japanese visual novel company known for their gorgeous visual style and elaborate stories. No Name Losers was originally a Canadian digital fansubbing group formed in 2002. They focused on minori titles for much of their lifespan, and are now collaborating with us and minori to officially localize their titles into English.
We’ll be doing our best to get these two games out as soon as possible, so I hope everyone enjoys them!
Remember to always keep minority spirit!
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September 26, 2010 at 9:21 pm
It’s here!
September 26, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Please, print physical copies of this!
September 27, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Recette and Tear demand that you provide their little store with physical copies of this game.
And I wouldn’t mess with a cute little girl who has enough money to hire a bunch of muscle (and at least one rogue) to get the job done.
August 22, 2011 at 3:59 am
I second this demand!
September 26, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Aw yeah! >:D
September 26, 2010 at 9:30 pm
holy shit! Is this for real??
Minori FINALLY caved in and decided to stop calling us Dirty foreigners and ended their xenophobia?
September 26, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Hopefully visualarts will jump on too!
September 27, 2010 at 9:06 am
Xenophobia from Minori is a fake now u.u
September 27, 2010 at 11:24 am
they are still calling you dirty gaijin
it’s why you still cant enter their real site.
September 27, 2010 at 2:09 pm
run minori.ph on goggle translate and it allows you to see the japanese site :3
September 27, 2010 at 2:22 pm
You mean like Funimation who don’t let non-Americans enter their real site?
At least here from Europe they always redirect you from http://www.funimation.com/ to http://www.navarre.com/funimation/. So they are also xenophobs?
September 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Well Funimation is a dick, no one cares about them.
September 28, 2010 at 7:47 pm
And you believe the bulls site that feeding you all the crape as well as are the one that happily insulting you while laughing all the way to the banks
who are the one being xenophobic and stupid I might ass.
September 26, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Hooray!
September 26, 2010 at 9:33 pm
YAY! \ o /
September 26, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I think I have just begun to foam from my mouth.
September 26, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I’m so getting these~ Thanks MangaGamer! ^^
September 26, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Well, shouldn’t be too long on the release because it’s already translated/edited/QC’d. Just needs game engine work most likely…
September 26, 2010 at 9:49 pm
only way I’ll buy this is if you make physical copies fyi.
September 26, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I’ll take three!
September 26, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Congratulations Mangagamer.
Now it’s time to sell physical copies. No more shitty digital downloads with DRM.
September 26, 2010 at 9:54 pm
This is such excellent news! I’m so glad everything was settled amicably!
September 26, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Yay! Grats Mangagamer! Can’t wait to play this one.
September 26, 2010 at 9:57 pm
First of all let me offer you my congratulations. I’m a firm believer in partnerships between fan-translation groups and legit distributors.
However, let me reiterate the importance of physical copies to most fans. The vast majority of us reading this news have already read NNL’s fan translation of ef. I would *only* consider buying a VN I’ve already read if there was a physical copy involved. Please make it so.
September 26, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Seriously, your sales will absolutely go through the roof if you offer physical copies.
September 26, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Maybe. What isn’t debatable is that their costs would also rise. It’s not a free lunch.
Anyway I’ll be buying these, absolutely.
September 27, 2010 at 3:55 am
So, let them tack on $10 more, I do not think anyone would care paying a little more, as long as it had a nice case, disk print and booklet inside :3
September 28, 2010 at 7:22 pm
$10 wouldn’t even begin to cover it.
And consider all the people asking for deluxe boxes, CDs, dakimakura… you’re talking $100+ at that point.
September 27, 2010 at 6:31 am
Completely agreed. I don’t want to pay for a download only of something I’ve already read. I’d be more than willing to buy a physical release, though. Even if it was slightly more expensive.
September 26, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’m happy to hear this. I dig Minori games and NNL are a great group. HOWEVER, you’re never going to get the support you need from the Western market without hard copies. We want something to put on our shelf. We want our Limited Edition versions with OSTs and dakimakura. If you start taking cues from Glorious Nippon your revenues will multiply a hundredfold. Do some internet research. Hard copies are the only things holding you back. The pirates ships will sink. Just give the collector something to appreciate.
September 27, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Uhhh stupid question….
Are you actually willing to pay Japanese prices for all that stuff (e.g. US$95-120) per game?
And, more importantly, do you know a thousand OTHER people who will do it to justify the numbers required to get all that stuff made up?
The reason Japanese games come with all that crap is because 1) they sell the numbers to make up for it and 2) Japanese otaku are insane and will buy the game because they like the art, keep the goodies, and sell the disc to the secondhand store without playing the game.
September 27, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Chances are if you’re buying ef, you’re already an otaku. What average anime watcher would a) pay for something and b) even know about this? They could offer physical copies while at the same time selling digital copies.
September 28, 2010 at 5:04 am
You missed the point entirely.
The point is that as much as fans want the Japanese special edition release with a soundtrack, hug pillow, and who knows what else in the box that just happens to have an English disc in there, there’s not a quantity of fans willing to pay the Japanese price proportional enough to the Japanese market for it to ever happen.
September 28, 2010 at 8:50 am
Will you be paying for the overhead for all of the physical printings? Or will you be the guy that answers all of the orders and ships out the disks?
September 28, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Is there no way you guys can print discs on an order to order basis? Obviously I have no idea what the process involves so excuse me if I’m asking a stupid question, but I’d definitely put in a special request for all your games if I could get a hard copy hell even for the ones I already bought. That way if someone wants a hard copy they can order one you guys whip it up and they pay a higher price to cover it and you guys don’t waste money on DVDs that never sold.
September 28, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Do what Matt says!
September 28, 2010 at 4:18 pm
You don’t understand how disc pressing works. The minimum press run is 1000 discs. That’s apparently about equal to MG’s TOTAL sales for a game. They can’t just print discs on request. They have to be convinced the 1000 physical copies will sell, or it’s no deal.
I do think a physical release will improve sales, and they’ll eventually be able to sell their inventory for big-name titles. For a game like Ef, which many fans have already played, it’ll be important to have a physical release to retain EXISTING customers. If you don’t give such people SOMETHING extra over the previous fan release, they’re not going to be interested in buying this. This wouldn’t be a problem if you were reaching out to people outside this small group of fans–but unfortunately that does not appear to be the case so far.
I’d hate to see this localization deal spoiled by the fan release “leech effect”–you have to do your best to combat this. I think a physical release would help.
September 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Yeah.. I didn’t know it worked that way it’s really too bad. All these quotas that need to be met it really sucks.
September 26, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I really can’t see spending money on The First Tale considering how short it is and the fact that I’ve already read it, but I’ll definitely purchase The Latter Tale.
Hopefully you guys will be able to release the two parts relatively close to each other.
September 26, 2010 at 10:26 pm
That OP was awesome. I favorited it.
September 26, 2010 at 10:38 pm
I will be buying both, regardless of whether physical or digital. I’m looking forward to these. Keep up the great work.
September 26, 2010 at 11:00 pm
A good thing I put the fanlation on the back burner after its release. As a show of good faith, and so I won’t be spoiled, I will now delete the program from my drive and await the official release.
To MG and NNL, I don’t know how you negotiated this (you guys must have high paragon skills (sorry Bioware fanboy) but thank you and congratulations.
To minori, welcome aboard, with the anti-foreigner thing now water under the bridge, you’ve earned yourselves some loyal customers (including me).
I can guarantee that I’ll buy both parts of EF as they come out and I hope we’ll see the release of Tenshi no Nichiyoubi, Eden*, Angel Type,Haru no Ashioto, and Bittersweet Fools.
Again, congrats. Now go team up with Moogy and Nephrin to negotiate for Akabesoft2/Akatsuki Works’ eroge, lol
September 26, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Will any of these upcoming releases come in all-ages versions?
September 26, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Took a look at the demo movie (good thing I only played 5 minutes of the fanlation) and was subsequently blown away. That opening was almost cinema quality, and we’re getting a high class game like this….
Uh, can anyone remind me what’s coming out at the end of January? I seem to have forgotten…
September 26, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Koihime Musou comes out at the end of January. =3
September 27, 2010 at 2:46 am
Of course it’s “cinema quality”, it was made by Shinkai Makoto.
September 27, 2010 at 1:06 pm
And that alone is worth the price.
October 31, 2010 at 8:54 am
Right!
September 26, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Please release some physical copies of these!!! I will definately be getting them!!!!
September 26, 2010 at 11:21 pm
If only there could be a limited edition JP release type box… But I guess I won’t complain, a DVD case isn’t so bad… especially if you can make it pretty and shiny… [I bought Eden* it sure is a nice looking box.]
Hmm… I’m not sure about buying soley digital, although I might. I would be much more inclined, if there was an upgrade program though… [in the event that you release hardcopies... and they are not low priced like Higurashi and KiraKira all-ages]…
Buy the digital copy and you can purchase the DVD at reduced price… That’d be incentive!
Oh… and awesome news… Minori takes the plunge… never thought I’d see the day ;D
I haven’t played any of their games yet, but if they are good enough; it could be a great way to advertise VNs in the west. I always thought they had the kind of mainstream anime art appeal that could attract those who know nothing about these games. Now you just need to get a nice release, nice feedback, and get the right advertisement somewhere to catch attention. Don’t mess up a chance like this to grow in a big way
[Now someone license those ef anime on blu-ray...]
September 26, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Hey, I met some of your guys in OTAKON at the beginning of August. I am a Chinese student now studying in a university in USA . I also participated in making the Chinese version of the ef-series(as a translator) .Now the fandisc of ef is also being translated into Chinese. I am very glad that the English version of this game is going to be realized. You guys really did a good job and please keep fighting~~~
September 27, 2010 at 12:04 am
So where do I preorder? You guys really need money to print DVDs, don’t you?
Also, please get rid of that SUPAH!!1oneone thingy in your release. It’s not funny.
September 27, 2010 at 12:40 am
I see, NNL have already replied to the last part.
Now, the law is The Law, so everyone’s adult now. Fine, it’s not like you’ve never published, ahem, “alternative” versions. However, Japanese censorship doesn’t apply to the Netherlands; does this mean we’re getting uncensored images?
September 27, 2010 at 10:59 am
Well, the only game we’ve ever released without uncensored images was Suika, and that’s only because the original images were lost. ^_^;;
So I’d say it’s perfectly safe to hope for ‘em!
September 28, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I hope so. Wouldn’t be very funny if minori refused to provide the uncensored cg’s to “protect the japanese market and avoid reverse imports” or something.
September 27, 2010 at 12:10 am
question will you be releasing it as the First Tale and ef – the Latter Tale or ef – The tale of the two(as NNL released it)
Also if it is the 2 separate you going a simultaneous release(preferably with a twin pack) or you going to spit them.
September 27, 2010 at 12:13 am
NM 1st one answered on NNL website 2 separate games
September 27, 2010 at 12:12 am
Wow, who would have thought?
Even though I have NNL’s full release (only read Chapter 1 and 5 so far), I’ll probably buy this legit release just to support minori and hopefully encourage them to put *eden and other future releases on our shelves.
As people have already commented on, I would prefer the option of a hard copy. A digital version bypasses delivery costs, waits and production costs but, imho, it doesn’t leave us with the feeling of an “authentic” product. I would gladly pay a small premium just for this.
September 27, 2010 at 12:21 am
Here’s info from NNL’s website:
“2010.09.27. ef – a fairy tale of the two gets an official release
It’s a dream come true! Negotiations between No Name Losers and minori have been successful, and ef will soon be distributed through Mangagamer. Mangagamer has a full lineup of releases until February 2011, so please wait until then!
We are thrilled to be finally co-operating with minori. A few months ago, if anyone told you that minori and No Name Losers would reconcile, you’d give them a funny look! But here we are today, in a landmark moment that will hopefully repair any lingering tensions between minori and their western fans! Our most sincere thanks goes to Mr. nbkz Sakai, the CEO of minori, and bamboo, the CEO of OVERDRIVE. They were the ones who made this all possible.
There will be a number of changes from the fansubbed version in order to accomodate a broader audience:
- ef will be split into the original “first tale” and “latter tale” versions. It was our desire to keep the versions merged, but minori requested this.
- Translation has to step up to professional grade, so we can’t throw in any more junk text blocks. As a result, localization will be tighter: no more Iraqi journalists or SUPAHs! Hurrah!
- Our previous honorific guideline was confusing for many people. To correct this, honorific usage will be streamlined instead of having exceptions for Chihiro and Mizuki. Idiosyncrasies of characters, such as Yuuko’s weird mannerisms (she uses -masu form to the point of annoyance), will be retained.
- Certain terminology and vocabulary will be changed to comply with western laws. All characters are 18 or over!
- Bad end 5, the fake ending that was included for humor, must sadly be removed. Here is the script, free of charge! Special thanks to tester zerokirby15 for providing such wonderful fan fiction.
- Now that we have minori’s support, the technical issues we encountered will hopefully be fixed. Memories (flashback) and configuration will completely work!
The following still needs to be discussed with minori:
- Enhancements (transition speeds/upsampled music/compression)
- Prerelease fandisc (First Fan Disc/Second Fan Mix) content”
Please hug bamboo for me
September 27, 2010 at 4:12 am
>streamlined
Meaning honorifics are going to be kept and used? Even pronouns ones?
They BETTER be.
September 27, 2010 at 10:57 am
Bamboo says he’s glad you enjoyed the news!
September 27, 2010 at 1:05 pm
While yayfications can be had for the news, the fact that Bamboo is (supposedly) retaining the services of… … … that guy is grim news indeed.
September 27, 2010 at 12:41 am
So I guess my guess was correct when I saw that “coded” Tweet some time ago…
September 27, 2010 at 12:58 am
Holy shit. I never thought I’d live to see the day.
Am I allowed to assume that Eden* will follow shortly as well? :>
September 27, 2010 at 12:59 am
I think this is a big breaktrough. One of the most notorious gaijin hating eroge companies will sell through Mangagamer. Yay!
September 27, 2010 at 1:42 am
I am pleased
September 27, 2010 at 1:49 am
minori art = win
makoto shinkai OPs = win
TENMON violin solos = win
minori art [of naked girls] = win
Hmm… you know, I think I’ll have no problem paying twice for two overpriced halves of one absurdly, stupidly amazing game. Even without hard copies. But let me finish the G-Senjou no Maou project before people start bugging ABS2 about jumping on this epic bandwagon MG has created…
September 27, 2010 at 2:12 am
The project hasn’t moved in over a month…
September 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Really? Because I can SWEAR that me and TNA have been finalizing scripts… wrong person to quote project progress to, I’m afraid ^.^
Check the username. Just because I don’t like posting updates and getting people hyped for a patch that might get delayed X number of months doesn’t mean there isn’t progress. But in the next week or so, we might have something good for you~~~
September 27, 2010 at 3:13 am
minori main website is still blocking foreigners.
enjoying our concentration camp?
September 27, 2010 at 8:16 am
Enjoying pirating?
Not that anyone visits the sites e.e
September 27, 2010 at 11:15 am
They’re letting us have their games in english and uncensored. If I want to check out their lineup, I have more than enough alternatives besides the website. In other words, they can do whatever they like with their website now.
September 27, 2010 at 2:32 pm
So does the Funimation main website.
September 27, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Shut up, Bangkok
Nobody cares about your personal crusade against minori
September 27, 2010 at 3:18 am
My money is eagerly waiting for the chance to move to your pockets in exchange for a hard copy of this.
September 27, 2010 at 3:58 am
if they sell the 2nd half of ef for 30 bucks or less i’ll buy it, i’d pay 50 for a hardcopy.
September 27, 2010 at 4:24 am
Ohh Please god , give us physical copies this time.
I just got KiraKira and Higurashi as “real in hand” versions and it feels great to have them now forever in my bookshelf.
*My Pc crashes a lot so I really need a disc version or else I might lose it later*
September 27, 2010 at 5:42 am
Wow…great news
Can’t wait for your release. On another note, I’m not sure where to ask this, but i thought i might as well as here, are you guys going to release Da Capo Plus Communication? If so when would we be able to expect it, after Da Capo II or before?
Thanks, and keep up the good work ^^
September 27, 2010 at 5:42 am
Release a physical copy, and both the first and latter tale, will be the first eroge i actually paid to get… assuming you release them before I’m going to Japan next year tho… ^^
Please release this with all the glorious tidbits the Japanese fans are treated with…. We want equal treatment here!! Do do, and I don’t mind smuggling these babies to Singapore for my personal enjoyment… lol.
September 27, 2010 at 6:31 am
Congratulations MangaGamer! This is really a breaking news collaborating with a (former) fan group!
September 27, 2010 at 6:42 am
First partnership with a translator group,it’s marvelous *o*
September 27, 2010 at 6:57 am
Jast+Tlwiki.
September 27, 2010 at 8:13 am
JAST USA is a big shit u.u
September 27, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Jast and Mangagamer are both great companies. Both released good games and both have great games on lineup (Jast with Demonbane and Yumina)(Mangagamer with Koihime and Ef)
September 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm
+False advertising from Jast saying
x nukige is the best eroge ever written!
September 27, 2010 at 7:31 am
HUZZAHZ for everyone involved in this joining. i have been following NNL since they did wind, and i never expected them to be serious enough to pull this off (seeing as they tend to be MASSIVE trolls) major props to NNL for sucking it up and not continuing that massive shitfight back when minori first objected.
September 27, 2010 at 7:45 am
Awesome, although I have to quote my buddy
“…fully voiced, but minus all the images this time?”
Anyway I look forward to the releases.
September 27, 2010 at 7:46 am
I wouldn’t be so happy, ef is a mediocre title and NNL are mediocre translators. Stop releasing old third-rated crap and give us something fresh… or at least not so crappy.
September 27, 2010 at 8:46 am
Don’t be jealous that you don’t have enough talent to get paid for your work.
September 27, 2010 at 9:09 am
Get out troll,you’re a son of a bitch _|_
September 27, 2010 at 1:03 pm
U mad, brah?
September 28, 2010 at 12:08 am
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September 28, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Wow you really do have vids for everything haha…
September 29, 2010 at 1:09 pm
NNL’s translation was excellent. Even with the supahs.
September 29, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I’m going to miss SUPAH!
September 27, 2010 at 7:47 am
Congratulations, I was just thinking yesterday that I really want to play these games!
September 27, 2010 at 8:56 am
bravo !
September 27, 2010 at 9:07 am
http://overseas.minori.ph/
September 27, 2010 at 9:47 am
http://visualnovelaer.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/1093/
September 27, 2010 at 9:32 am
台湾の陳と申します。
外国向けのホームページできてうれしいですが、
外国人とは言え、
すべての外国人英語しゃべれるわけではありません。
日本語のホームページがほしいです。
September 27, 2010 at 11:23 am
「残念だな糞外人」
偽サイトで我慢しろよ
September 27, 2010 at 12:16 pm
糞日本野郎、さっさと死ね
October 1, 2010 at 4:18 pm
あいつは日本人じゃない、頭いかれたMinoruアンチ害人だ。気にするな。
September 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm
日本語のホームページ？冗談じゃない！Monoriの糞社長を説得できるわけないでしょう？
September 27, 2010 at 12:26 pm
私も日本語のホームページがほしいです。
March 23, 2011 at 11:37 am
总之minori的网站对外开放了是件好事。
いいですね!
May 7, 2011 at 10:10 am
けんかは不必要だ
September 27, 2010 at 9:57 am
all hail minori!
September 27, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I, for one, am looking forward to our minorin overlords.
September 27, 2010 at 11:24 am
When will we be able to view minori’s “real” website? I hope they don’t plan to keep the overseas one up unless it becomes an English version of their site. Otherwise, it won’t change the fact we’re being blocked.
September 27, 2010 at 12:18 pm
So what steps will there be in localizing this considering how far NNL went when they fanlated the two games? I know that the translated material will need to be looked over and all for accuracy and editing, but what about the system part? Is this going to be on the standard system MGs games run on or will it its own thing like Koihime Musou?
September 27, 2010 at 1:45 pm
NNL is revising their translation, double checking and making the changes listed on their site. We’ll look over/edit what’s presented and then it’s off to minori.
minori will be handling all the script insertion, converting Musica to work with English text so that it can be used with possible future releases as well.
September 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm
YAYFICATIONS!
September 27, 2010 at 3:03 pm
For all you guys wanting physical copies check out this post on the forums that a rep from Hen Da Ne posted: http://mangagamer.site11.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=861
Looks like there is a possibility if things go well with physical copy sales at HDN, MangaGamer might be able to get more of their games out to us that way.
September 27, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Certainly nice. Now if only they’d add the rest of EU to the places they deliver to as well, then I’d actually be able to order a possible physical copy too.
September 27, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Seems more like they simply haven’t added them to the list yet. I’m sure if you e-mail them about it you can do so.
September 28, 2010 at 9:04 am
True, their site says to contact them to find a way to add your country as well. Of course, adding more than just mine would be still nice. But I’m sure they can do this.
And since the reply came from you, I guess there is some hope for a physical copy.
September 29, 2010 at 1:08 pm
That’s glorious news. Selling physical copies would definitely attract some new potential buyers!
September 27, 2010 at 3:25 pm
yes I love you MG, I love you
September 27, 2010 at 3:43 pm
騙されたんだよ、minoriの厨二社長に！は、は、は
September 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm
there is already an unofficial english patch for this game
September 27, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Who do you think made the patch >>
September 27, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Thank you Mr. Obvious, I hear the sky is also blue and the sun moves from east to west.
September 27, 2010 at 10:06 pm
You really haven’t been paying attention much have you?
September 27, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Cut back on the grog, man, you’ll notice things better
September 27, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Whoa, an uncensored, physical release really WOULD be awesome! *-*
I’d buy both games, even though I already have the latter tale lying around!
And if it’s just for the sake of eden* being released as well.
Just please – a physical release and, even more important, an uncensored version! That’d be so great!
September 27, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I have to hand it to Mangagamer – you just made pigs fly. I’m looking forward to supporting this. +1 hope for a physical release.
September 27, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Sounds Interesting!
September 27, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Wonderful, I am very excited about this. I love some of these games enough to buy even without being able to read them, so count me in. I would love a physical copy but will buy either way!
September 27, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I really don’t care if it’s uncensored or not. I’ve already played NNL’s unofficial release, however, if there is a physical release, I will DEFINITELY buy. If it’s download only then I will PROBABLY buy it. When all the hints were being dropped, I was really hoping eden* would be the release, but I am more than OK with a more polished off version of ef.
This is the best news that has occurred within the visual novel scene in a while.
September 28, 2010 at 2:00 am
you go to a japanese bar
they wont let you in the room. saying theres another room prepared for you gaijins as the main room is for japanese only. and you happily suck their cock and go to another room which serves less shit than the main room, and is really dirty, and no hot waitress girls but instead its a self service. all of this with the same price as the main room.
thats what buying minori title feels like.
September 28, 2010 at 2:28 am
you go to a seminar
you hear a professor lecture about his specialty, then you walk outside and see a hobo screaming about 9/11 conspiracies
that’s what listening to the above post feels like.
September 29, 2010 at 10:27 am
Were you planning on playing it in original Japanese or something?
Because I mean, buying the official localised English version, uncensored (unlike the original) sounds like a good deal to me.
Maybe it’s just me.
September 28, 2010 at 3:17 am
So is there a rough release date for these titles? Since Ef is already translated and all. Even knowing before/after Koihime would be handy.
September 28, 2010 at 7:02 am
NNL is saying we have to wait until February 2011 at least because MG’s schedule is full with other games until then.
September 28, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Yes, our release schedule is rather full until after Koihime Musou so it won’t be released before then. As for how long afterwards–that all depends on how much work minori has to do to their engine and how long it takes them.
September 28, 2010 at 9:17 am
How can people play a minori eroge and “not care” whether this golden opportunity gets released uncensored or censored? The art is flipping incredible, even during sex scenes. The censorship is distracting.
Oh, wait. Waaaait. Wind had that brilliant “ghost dick” censorship, where during fellatio scenes the male organ is transparent. That’s another story, because 1) it has comic effect and 2) I’d rather see the girl’s tongue than the dude’s wang. Oh, now I feel conflicted~~~
September 28, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Usually in the case of “ghost dick” the thing was never drawn in the first place, and uncensoring the image doesn’t magically add something which was never there to begin with.
September 28, 2010 at 10:40 am
I am interested by digital copy but I am worried because DRM often mean a lot of problems (assassin’s creed pc version by example).
September 28, 2010 at 11:22 am
Our DRM is about as unobtrusive as it gets – have never heard of problems from it, and if you run out of legit installs, you can email support and get a new code sent out.
September 28, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Our DRM doesn’t even require you to maintain an internet connection–only that you be logged into the internet when you first activate the game.
September 28, 2010 at 12:25 pm
It triggers some anti-virus software and has an install limit of 5 installs. Otherwise it’s unobtrusive as far as digital release DRM goes.
September 28, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Congratulations about this. I hope this will be just one of the big things that you will do in the future.
September 28, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Yipee!
(never thought that minori will talk to a foreigner ever again since that day…)
September 28, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Oh come on. You actually believe what is been post in those bulls site? If so i Believe that you think you are a dirty foreigner.
September 29, 2010 at 7:15 am
Biggest news til present date. Finally the eroge market is opening, overflow working with sekaiproject, minori working with MG and NNL.. This are indeed awesome, magnificent news.
I will buy ef as soon as it comes out. I’ve played it already with the NNL translation but, who cares. We need to do our best to support this, the future of the western VN market is in our hands now. We can’t blame those 日本人 anymore.
Congrats MG.
September 29, 2010 at 9:41 am
Finally i remember requesting this series when mangagamer first opened and its finally here
. I can’t wait to see how well its done. I also hope that the voice acting will be kept intact so that we can enjoy the game to its fullest.
September 30, 2010 at 3:15 am
So.
Why is minori.ph still blocking foreigners?
September 30, 2010 at 5:00 am
You don’t like the amazing overseas site with one picture!?
How dare you!
September 30, 2010 at 7:59 am
They’re still going by the philosophy that allowing unrestricted access to foreigners represents a liability of some sort (legal? political? social?). They must believe it’s the localization company’s job to make region-appropriate websites for the games they localize. Now that they’ve proved their sincerity, I’d say it’s an acceptable (but odd) explanation.
October 1, 2010 at 3:09 am
and you still buy into their shit?
they dont want to serve you period. if they want to do business with us then THEY NEED TO SERVE US
October 1, 2010 at 9:46 am
Since when has the Japanese homepage of an eroge company ever served us? Minori is probably the first to ever have a page acknowledging that their games are going to be in English.
September 30, 2010 at 11:01 am
Well, it’s their site, they can do whatever they want with it now that they’re letting us have their games. If you want a look at the company’s other games there’s plenty of alternatives besides minori’s site, you know.
September 30, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Ya, proxies work like a champ.
October 1, 2010 at 4:44 am
Drop the limited activations and it’s an instant buy.
October 1, 2010 at 9:46 am
And Manga Gamer is going to stop people from just putting it on the net, how? You’re asking them to remove what little protection they have left from piracy. The DRM as it stands now, isn’t at all intrusive and you have five activations. How many computers do you intend to install it on?
October 1, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Yes five is enough now, but what about in five-ten years??
I still play nes/famicom games that are soon going to be 30 years old.
Plus I like a trophy in my bookshelf, so please MG make real physical copy’s of your big titles…
I don’t get it why kirakira is released on disc but Da Capo and Shuffle is not.
Very frustrating!
October 1, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Because those were made for Otakcon…
For advertisement
October 1, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Because those hard-copies were a test, and they haven’t sold very well yet? Despite being available in a number of locations such as HenDaNe…
Perhaps if they sell well, you’ll be able to see hard copy releases of more…
October 1, 2010 at 6:42 pm
How many computers do you intend to go through in five-ten years? 20? 30?
As it stands, the DRM is already pretty lenient. Last year, I’ve had to replace almost half the parts in my machine due to a burned out motherboard that took some parts with it and only one of the three Manga Gamer games required me to re-enter my activation code.
October 1, 2010 at 2:59 pm
You do realize that if you run out of activations, you can just e-mail our support for a new code, right? Once they check your MG account and make sure you own the game, it’s very easy to reissue a new activation code. The only problem is if you do something suspicious like burning through them too fast.
October 1, 2010 at 8:05 pm
I reformat my PC for general maintenance a few times per year, but my main concern is that you might not be around anymore. Mangagamer is a fairly niche company and could easily go bankrupt at some point (no offense).
One suggestion would be a tool to at least deauthorize and regain an activation upon uninstallation (like EA), not counting multiple activations on the same hardware (like iTunes) or a promise to provide a DRM removal patch if you ever should go out of business (like Steam).
It’s a long way to February, I hope you’ll consider a different way to protect your products.
October 1, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Well, if you’re that worried about DRM, then you can at least pick up our hard-copies of Higurashi and Kira Kira from Hen Da Ne the hard copies had no DRM.
October 1, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Is the all ages Kira Kira the only one in hard copy form? I wonder why I never heard anything about this before.
October 1, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Yeah, The Kira Kira they’re currently offering is the All Ages one. It’s part of the run we printed for AX and Otakon this year. Likewise, they have the Question Arcs for Higurashi as well.
October 15, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Sorry, not interested in those titles at all.
October 1, 2010 at 10:18 am
Will be buying both in hope for other minori games!
October 2, 2010 at 3:10 am
Why does Play-Asia.com not sell Kira and “when they cry”?
I got some of those other games from there PC-hentai section.
I already got the those two, but if future minori hard copy’s is based on how these two do, then more stores need to sell them, so that numbers go up.
I’m gonna spread this news on Swedish forums/ C U
October 4, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Check hendane for Kirakira and higurashi.
October 2, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Ah this game made me cry ._.”
You guys gotta buy it! ^________^
October 2, 2010 at 8:27 pm
This is great news although I played the other translation by nnl I will deffinently buy and support the localazation of all the minori games you realese
October 3, 2010 at 4:48 am
Is this game pornographic stuff? Or it’s more like Higurashi?
October 3, 2010 at 8:18 am
It has low sexual content.
October 3, 2010 at 8:33 am
Is the sexual content have to do with the story or it’s just sex for the sake of throwing pornography in a visual novel?
October 3, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Though I’ve never played it I’m pretty sure this Isn’t some random sex romp.
October 3, 2010 at 3:07 pm
That’s really kind of an opinion based question.
For me, save for sex-romps and a few other titles, the pornographic material in visual novels generally ties into the story, i.e. a typical scenario the protagonist gets closer to another character and their relationship deepens and the line between friendship becomes something more. The protagonist then becomes involved in the other character’s life and tries to help them overcome a certain obstacle.
October 3, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I’ll put it this way
The sex scenes are important for some scenes in the plot.
October 4, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Well they’re written into the story in a plausible way as opposed to sex romps that tend to just be ‘hey nice shoes, wanna f*ck?’
October 4, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Like Mikis h-scene
October 7, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Good news! But I still want to enter the original minori site without proxies. Do they still consider us as filthy gaijins?
October 7, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Maybe it’s just too much trouble to unblock their site. Why not just use getchu?
October 8, 2010 at 3:29 pm
too much trouble deleting htaccess?
why are you trying so hard to defend their actions?
October 9, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Oh I don’t know, maybe because they’re allowing us to have their games in english
October 16, 2010 at 3:31 am
/support localization + works for (only and for) & buy eroge.
October 23, 2010 at 12:47 am
Woa. This seems pretty god. I want to play it. Man, i’m a New visual novel fan. I have a lot to watch.
October 23, 2010 at 6:54 am
physical copies would be nice, but i also like digital download on some less popular titles…just me probably xD
November 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciated ‘Tales of Memories’. I wept while watching because I sustained a brain injury in 2000 and there were too many similarities between the character Chihiro and my own life. In my case it has been 10 years of learning, forgetting, relearning and being afraid to step out into a world I don’t remember. However, it is the graceful, sensitive and life giving works like this that make me believe that I am not destined to live a life of pain, fear and regret, but instead a life full of love, warmth and compassion. Thank you once again.
November 16, 2010 at 2:24 am
I’m also in for a physical copy of the 2 games, as well the pleasure box. While we are there please also translate the PS2 version and make physical copies too.
Also, is eden being planned to be translated too?
November 17, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Approximate release date? Which version to be released?
February 2, 2011 at 3:51 am
I am looking forward to playing these wonderful games~
March 14, 2011 at 4:33 am
Wonderful!
Please, translate and release the fandisc, too.
March 23, 2011 at 11:12 am
这样才对嘛，所以说minori终于明智点了，不错不错，值得表扬。希望我最喜欢的悠久之翼能更加广为传播！
March 23, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Hurrray!!! – I can’t wait to be able to finally support such excellent works.
May 1, 2011 at 8:45 am
Hey is there a chance that You will release first game this year? Im asking this because aside of this post from sep 2010 here I can’t find any info about it. I hope this project wasn’t chanceled ?
May 1, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Nope, it certainly hasn’t been canceled. We’re hoping to have it out this summer, but Minori also suffered some damages in the Sendai Earthquake. We mentioned this in our post during March.
May 5, 2011 at 11:41 am
怎么能把景交给京介那种渣滓啊！！！天啊，我的景!!!
May 6, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Yeah, I think so too!
(What were you saying? Google Translate gives: Kyosuke 那种 啊 交给 渣滓 landscape features 怎么 bunch! ! ! 啊 heaven, and our landscape!)
May 6, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Did you try Chinese (since there are no kana here)? I get “Introduction to Beijing, how can the kind of landscape waste ah! ! ! My God, my King!!!”
May 6, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Moon-speek all look same!
May 6, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I guess that’s a bit better… But honestly, that still doesn’t make much sense! XD
May 7, 2011 at 10:00 am
Oh, I’m saying:”How can the Minori give Kei to Kyousuke who is a bad man”
Oh my Kei!
（I love Kei and I think Kyousuke can’t compare to Kei…he is out of her league）
Well, I think Kei in game ef-a tale of two is best!
P.S.
As you know:
新藤 景 Kei Shindou
堤 京介 Kyosuke Tsutsumi
May 7, 2011 at 10:20 am
Oh,maybe I should change Kyousuke to Kyosuke.
Well,in Japanese the “yo” in Kyosuke is a long vowel.
May 7, 2011 at 11:01 am
I was wondering why it sounded strange…figurd it was regional dialect…
May 6, 2011 at 7:13 pm
你怎么可能不欣賞minori的景色和七尾奈留的姑娘?
May 7, 2011 at 10:05 am
是啊，人物作画非常精致，虽然七尾笔下很多人物其实长得差不多…换个衣服和发型而已…无语。
May 7, 2011 at 10:50 am
总理你会说渣滓这个词了!天啊,我的总理!!!
May 7, 2011 at 11:05 am
…….
September 24, 2011 at 8:31 pm
这个同感..
May 15, 2011 at 12:25 am
I was wondering….will both parts of EF be Fully Voiced?
May 20, 2011 at 12:19 am
I wonder it has been conveyed here.
August 9, 2011 at 1:25 am
Minori is responsible for all VA’s.
So…Yes?
August 9, 2011 at 1:43 am
I only know that Minori followed VA ban the visits from other countries except NIPPON.
But what do you mean? I can’t understand. Can you explain more clearly?
August 9, 2011 at 11:04 am
Minori blocked IPs outside of Japan from viewing their main site; the issue of voice actors (VA’s) is a different matter.
Minori owns the rights to the voices of their games so it’s up to them whether or not to license their usage, not a third-party like the case with Kara no Shoujo. At this time, only the first tale is undergoing testing as NNL indicates, and barring any unseen issues suddenly befalling the project, it will be fully voiced.
August 10, 2011 at 10:57 am
Thank you for your introduction.
Well, I love ef best as the most outstanding galgame.
August 8, 2011 at 12:18 pm
加油，做出更好的作品
August 9, 2011 at 1:23 am
MINORI的作品一直都令人期待！
August 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm
miniro一直都挺不错的。
August 25, 2011 at 1:38 am
是minori吧？
August 25, 2011 at 8:01 pm
居然看到中文了。。
wwwwwwww
真是有意思。。。
September 25, 2011 at 1:53 am
看到中文有何好奇怪的…
September 30, 2011 at 10:10 pm
如果不是看到中文的话咱作为一个纯种中国人果断会用英语发帖…
August 23, 2012 at 10:02 am
Key and minori in my heart is the best, always support!!!!!
September 24, 2011 at 8:19 pm
可惜没有中文版的网站啊
不过从这里看来全世界的ACG爱好者们都是很有爱的喵> <
October 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm
表示为什么官网禁了IP了 揪心.
October 8, 2011 at 12:45 am
官网禁了是个悲剧啊..%>_<%
October 8, 2011 at 9:33 am
现在来这里也要用代理了..
上个星期还不用的说= =
November 1, 2011 at 9:32 am
而家已經要代理好耐了.無解啊.點解要用wordpress,fc2唔得咩.
January 2, 2012 at 2:05 am
Oh Wow! My god! This is good news. At least we can access some information about Minori and their products. I usually use the website for research to decide whether a product has an interesting enough story to buy.
I am guessing this website is still a watered down version of what should be available on their main japanese website but I hope this website can provide jsut as much product information rather than being a website that is almost purely for advertising…
This is a Minori website is it not?
January 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm
不愧是中二社。
February 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm
minori才不中二呢！！！！！！！！！！
\(≧▽≦)/
中二的是5pb. *nitro+
January 30, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Will you make the pleasurable box too?
March 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Hmm.. Almost 2 years now.. will we live long enough to see this one released?
March 4, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Oh we’ll be fine according to this:
http://www.thehobbitblog.com/?p=4593
April 10, 2012 at 6:43 am
真心喜欢minori的作品！。
满满的爱啊！
July 17, 2012 at 5:16 am
希望有更好的作品
July 26, 2012 at 9:04 am
よやく いままて重ねるの気持ち伝える
自分は台湾のプレイヤーです
最初て接触したのお会社の作品はEFのアニメ
とても感動です 特に千尋と優子の話
日本語鈍いてすけど やばり言なければならない
ありがとう そしていいもの語りをつくてくたさい
July 26, 2012 at 9:09 am
忘れた！ edenのアニメも期待しています この願い叶うさせていただきませんか？